In the Bible, Exodus Ch 20 v 13 states clearly, concisely and unambiguously - “THOU SHALT NOT KILL”.
Please explain to me where, in the bible, the exceptions to this commandment are listed.
Remember that every living organism (human, animal, vegetable, microbe, bacteria, flower and tree) can be killed.
Question for believers of the Old Testament?
The term is "murder" not kill, big difference. Here is the translation for this word.
ra?tsach
raw-tsakh'
A primitive root; properly to dash in pieces, that is, kill (a human being), especially to murder: - put to death, kill, (man-) slay (-er), murder (-er).
Reply:ok this one is easy, God said to follow the Higher orders I have placed above you. ok?
so when you are in the military and you get an order from a superior you must follow that order. And to answer you organism and vegetable question sir, it was cleverly thought but you missed one thing, the fact that vegetables don't have souls, neither do animals, flowers , bacteria, or tree's. So how can you kill them if they were not alive? yes they thrive, but they are not alive on the level a human is.
Reply:Remember that the Bible that we read is a translation out of the original Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. The chapter and verse you cited actually interprets as "Thou shall not commit murder," and murder means purposely causing the death of someone who has done nothing to deserve it. (By that definition, executing a murderer is okay.) As far as other animals and vegetables are concerned, God gave us dominion over these to use as food, etcetera. It's all over the Old Testament, but especially the first five books.
Reply:big difference between murder and kill... it says in the BIBLE not to murder... which it also goes on to sya is the slaying of INNOCENT life...meaning that it is wrong to kill someone out of pure pleasure and not because they are a threat to you or others.
Reply:I personally think that this commandment is meant for believers to refrain from killing other believers. God of the Old Testament is a wrathful, vengeful God and many, many people are killed in the name of God in the Old Testament. I know that it technically isn't part of the Old Testament, but most bibles have 2 %26amp; 4 Maccabees in it - read that, it is about the Hasmonean war.
Sorry I can't give you more examples right now.
Reply:I am sorry but your question is to stupid to answer.
Reply:this has been mistranslated-it should read Thou shalt not murder. God himself was actively engaged in wars-so it's not that he is against war, if it's justified. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that believers have to hold a target so their enemies can get a good bead.
Reply:if it was "Thou shalt not kill", the hebrew would have been "Lo Tirhag". It isn't for a very good reason, because it says Thou shalt not MURDER.
So you can kill in self defense, a soldier can kill in war, a policeman can kill a person endangering others with illegal activity, a court can convict somebody and sentence them to death, and we can kill animals to eat them since the laws are explicitly given as to what we are allowed to eat, including animals!
Reply:"Thou shalt not kill" -- KJV
"Thou shalt not murder" -- NIV
"You shall not murder" -- NASB
"You must not murder" -- NLT
This applies to how you treat your brethren; killing also extends to squelching their emotional and spiritual well-being and livelihood, with hate and anger:
"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." -- Matthew 5:22 KJV
The second half of the commandments (which Thou Shalt Not Kill falls under) are summed up as love your neighbor as you love yourself. If one hates his brother, then he has broken the this commandment:
"For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." -- Romans 13:9 KJV
Reply:However you interpret every word of the bibles, it was written by many men of different times and geographical locations. All the commandments have been broken, and all can be forgiven. The overall message of all bibles is to love GOD with all your heart and do his will. His will is to not let evil flourish and protect the Innocent. Evil will not be stopped with words it requires force, sometimes its death is the only means of stopping it. If you read the rest of the Old Testament you will see GOD approved the taking of life by his armies as a way of elimination many times.If you don't believe this you didn't understand the Old Testament.
Reply:well we all can take stuff out of context,, gotta go, some ants are on my table and i have to get the raid
Reply:The word "kill" here is better rendered "murder", which is evident from the capital crimes listed in the same law.
If you couldn't kill anything at all, you would starve to death!
It's simple logic.
Reply:the NIV says - thou shall not murder - big difference - I have never murdered a bug
Reply:what are you getting at it sounds like you a probing for something but the truth is that even good people in the bible I.E. David went to war and killed 10,000 or so it says
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Wednesday, February 15, 2012
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